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How are your political conversations going these days? Not with people with whom you agree – I mean the ones with people whose views you can’t even begin to fathom. Are you even having them? Just remember – no matter what happens this election, those people aren’t going anywhere. If you’re not constructively engaging in the discomfort, what are you accomplishing?

Tell Me What To Say S. 2 Ep. 16: - Drew Kugler


For Drew Kugler, communication and conversation is the essence of life. Since first stepping into the classroom over 35 years ago, he has been called to educate, shape, and lead deep, systemic change in organizations large and small. In a time when the world feels poised to begin the work of fundamental change, Drew seeks to help individuals foster that same change within their communities and their lives.

At once a communication coach, tactical advisor, and structural mastermind, Drew feels called to help you understand yourself and, by extension, the people and places you care about. He believes by working with mindsets and practical frameworks to build a morally prosperous future.